Darwin Fans, Theory of Evolution Club, Free Thinkers Unite!

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By Austinstar

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Step One - place one or more of these tags in your hub tags...

These tags may be subject to change when the voting closes on January 2nd, 2011 (or maybe another date)

  • FTRUS - Free Thinkers - includes non-Darwin type hubs
  • AARUS - Agnostic/Athiest R us  - For Darwin related hubs
  • UCMRUS - Uncaged Minds R us - Let's use this tag for everything else!

Add one or more of these tags to your hub tags. You know, that little area on the right where you add your key words... These are the keywords that people search for your hubs with. The RSS feed will pick up on the keyword/tags and add that hub to the auto feed.

This is Step One! To add a hub to the RSS (Real Simple Syndication) Feed, you will have to add one or more of the tags above to each hub.

Step Two - add the RSS capsule to your hub!


Use the Capsule adder and place your RSS capsule just above or below the Comments capsule.

Edit the RSS capsule you just added to your hubs using one of these URL's...

  1. http://hubpages.com/tag/FTRUS/latest/?rss
  2. http://hubpages.com/tag/AARUS/best/?rss
  3. http://hubpages.com/tag/UCMRUS/hot/?rss

You may also substitute for the word "latest" the words "hot" or "best"

The RSS capsule will give you the opportunity to test your link and if it doesn't work, you will need to revise it.

Settings for the RSS capsule should be:

  1. The Feed URL - http://hubpages.com/tag/AARUS/latest/?rss (or other customized URL)
  2. Maximum number of items to display = 5
  3. Display Method = First Sentence Only
  4. Save

This is Step Two - This will display the syndicated links that will update automatically whenever you write a new hub and place a club tag in the hub.

See Example

Adding the RSS capsule

RSS Feed Settings
RSS Feed Settings
Source: HubPages

What's the name of our gang?

Votes need to be taken on what to call our hub cluster of friends, vote now!

  • FTRUS (Freethinkers R us)
  • AARUS (Agnostis/Athiests R us)
  • UCMRUS (Uncaged Minds R us)
See results without voting

The Darwin Club RSS Feed... (AARUS)

Hubs for Free Thinking Fans (FTRUS)

The RSS Feed for Club Members who also write about other stuff..(UCMRUS)

The Darwinclub Members so far...

Austinstar- Lela Cargill, B.A., MT, MLS, (ASCP) Immunohematologist and Blood Banker, Transfusion Services, Cedar Park Regional Medical Center, Cedar Park, Texas.

BaileyBear - BSc, DipTch, New Zealander living in Australia, My writing on HP is memoir and science, Aspie with Aspie child

Jane Bovary - M.A. Professional Wastrel, P/time Tutor, Gippsland. Victoria

Joyus Crynoid - Doctor of philosophy, professional Biologist, from Eden

Diogenes - Journalist, U.K.

Rod Marsden - Wollongong, NSW, Australia

Secularist10 - Justin, political and philosophical writer

Merlin Fraser - Murder mystery author from Gloucestershire

Christopheranton - interests are History, Politics, Classical Music and the welfare of my cat.

Manna in the Wild - Mathematician, Computer Whiz, Artist - http://www.spooks-art.com from OZ

Tonymac04 - From Pretoria, South Africa, a life coach, adult educator and writer.

Copernico - Forensic Science, from Canada

SilverGenes - Photographer and intelligent person!

simeonvisser - Technology and Travel Writer

pcunix -Super computer user, Atheist, and stays in shape!

f_ruz - a cosmopolitan at home in the world, against all forms of nationalistic propaganda and brainwashing

GustheRedneck - Another free thinking Texan, in spite of the name and avatar :-)

akirchner - Audrey of the comic genius! Dog lover extraordinaire, Medical Transcriber from Central Oregon

FCEtier - Husband, father, grandfather, pharmacist, photographer, high school football official, blogger, free lance writer-contributor to online magazines, "Blogcritics" and "Technorati"

More to come, I will update daily (for a while :-)

Members - Please contact me with your details to be added here.

Comments - If you wish to join our club and add your hubs automatically, please leave your name and message here...

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

It will take a little while after you add the tags to your hubs for them to show up in the RSS feed, so don't despair!

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Merlin Fraser 17 months ago

I think this is a great idea and I suppose I should join but in view of the level of naivety and ignorance we face from the other side do you honestly think we’ll be doing anything other than talking to ourselves ?

It never fails to surprise me that a group of otherwise sensible and well educated people cannot or will not accept what is blindingly obvious to others. However, it is probably the same people who cannot accept Darwin who cannot see gross world over population and global warming as a threat to humanity.

It’s just lately I have found a much more pleasurable way of wasting time !!!

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Well, at least we will be able to find each other and keep track of what's going on. Yes, do join, Merlin, I'd love to link to your hubs!

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christopheranton Level 7 Commenter 17 months ago

Do you have to be an atheist to join? I only ask because I am not an atheist, but I am an evolutionist. I dont see any contradiction between faith and Darwinism.

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

The only requirement is that you add the tag "Darwinclub" to your hubs. Also, if you choose to do so, you can add the RSS Capsule to your hubs also.

I'm making a list and will update the hub tonight. So far I haven't seen any articles appear although I have added "Darwinclub" to two hubs. I may have to tweak this a bit. I'll keep everyone updated!

Welcome to the club! I'll add your name tonight as well as Merlin. Send me a private email if you want me to put details after your name!

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katiem2 17 months ago

You always create such interesting topics for diverse and divided conversation. I read the title and was hooked. I look forward to checking back to read as this develops into a long shared expression of thoughts and feelings on Darwins fans on evolution. Katie :)

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

Is it in such a way that it doesn't get trashed by anti-evolutionists?

Also, agree with christopher that not pre-requisite to be atheist

I like as tags Darwinclub or Darwinfan

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

I'm experiencing a few technical difficulties. It came up saying the feed url you gave is not a valid one. Can only you use the above feed?

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copernico 17 months ago

Hi. I want to join!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

I can't seem to get the RSS feed to work, but I've added Darwinclub to my Darwin/evolution hubs. I'm still a little confused at how to use RSS, but other hubbers said they get more traffic using it.

Maybe could have separate club for atheists/agnostics/free-thinkers etc? Make this club only for fans of Darwin/evolution regardless of beliefs?

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Jane Bovary Level 1 Commenter 17 months ago

@Merlin, look into my eyes...directly into the eyes, don't look away from the eyes....now...(((join us))))

Hi Darwinites,

Thanks for this Austin. I'm not really a club joiner but I'll make an exception here, since it's such a good cause. Does this mean I'll have to write a Darwin hub? I mean there's not much point in me adding an rss to 'Beehive Hair'.

@BB...that's probably a good idea. After all, we don't want to be elitist!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

Jane - he he. I think it would be good to have 2 separate clubs, one for beliefs and one for science because some people would like to read about evolution but not stuff about belief systems and vice versa, plus we don't want the fuel the creationists claims that evolution etc is a religion

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 17 months ago

Seems like I am a member already which is great.

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Hi ya'll! I've tried to simplify the instructions and I've updated a few things. Also the RSS capsule seems to be working now. Jane has already added a hub to the feed. I have 3 in the mix so come on and add those tags!

katieM - are you wanting to join us? I will add your name to the list if you like.

BB - the feed can be trashed, but it would take some work to do so. If they (and we know who "they" are) try to trash the RSS, we'll have to change our tactics.

Please note that I changed Darwinfan to Darwinfans (plural)

Try copying and pasting the Feed URL into the RSS capsule. It should work for anyone.

http://hubpages.com/tag/Darwinfans/best/?rss

If you make a typo, it will not work.

There are no requirement at all to join our club other than adding the tags and RSS capsules! :-) No, you don't have to be an atheist or agnostic or anything else. We're just forming a club of friendly hubbers to promote our hubs!

Yes, Rod, I included you for sure!

Copernico, I am adding you to the list. Welcome! and happy hubbing!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

I see my 3 Darwin/evolution hubs are now on the feed since I tagged them. Do I also tag my agnostic hubs (which are related)?

Do anti-evolutionists 'trash' by adding their hubs, or do they mess with the links somehow?

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Jane Bovary Level 1 Commenter 17 months ago

"Jane has already added a hub to the feed"

I have? How did that happen..? It's magic!

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Step 1 - add the tags to your hubs

Step 2 - add the RSS capsule to your hubs

You don't have to do it for every hub, just the ones you want to add to the mix!

Jane, my bad, it was Joyous Crynoid that must have added the tag "Darwinclub" to the hub "Evolution is a Fact"! That's why it's in the feed already. Silly me, I forgot who wrote that hub!

BB, tag any hub you want in the mix and it will show up in the RSS Feed for that tag.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

the 'enlightenedbrains' tag - is that for the agnostic/atheist ones? Maybe the creationists think they have enlightened brains too?

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Well, we can always change the tag - do you have a suggestion?

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

freethinkers? easier to spell too. Creationists are 'prescribed thinkers'

I looked up freethinkers, and it sounds like us - basing opinion on rational thought, science etc, not tradition, dogma etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought

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Jane Bovary Level 1 Commenter 17 months ago

Yeah, change it..to be honest I think 'enlightened brains' sounds a bit wanky. I don't like that term 'brights' either that Dawkins came up with...it's offputting. What's wrong with freethinkers?

(BB..great minds think alike. I just saw your post)...Hey how about 'great minds'? Nah..lol, just kidding

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Ok, freethinkers it is!

BONUS feature! - adding the tags makes it EASY to search for our hubs!!!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

I think freethinkers is good - can advertise it as such too eg those using rational thought, logic, scientific enquiry, etc not those accepting belief in supernatural (which is superstition, non-rational etc). Our evolution hubs can go in freethinker club too? Just don't think the freethinker ones belong in evolution club.

I'm still having trouble getting these RSS feeds to work though. The tags seem to be working, which is a start

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Ut Oh, "freethinkers" is already taken!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

they're been on the same topics though, won't they? I searched freethinker one of David Bowman's came up. Could use freethinkerclub? To check what's in the feed, do we just click on the tab?

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

You can click on the tag in your hub and it will bring up a list of all hubs that have that same tag.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

maybe freethinkerclub to only bring up those in the club, rather than those opposing freethinkers in forums etc?

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Jane Bovary Level 1 Commenter 17 months ago

Uncaged minds? Secularists? Freethinkers4u? Athiest/Agnostics R Us? AA? I think, therefore I'm not religious?

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

I still like freethinker as a base, so maybe something like freethinkclub or freethinkerclub? Freethinkers exclude religion as not into superstitions. Will a tag like that pick up general freethinkers? Otherwise, I like uncagedminds

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simeonvisser 17 months ago

I don't like the Darwinfans tag. It fuels the idea that 'evolutionists are worshipping Charles Darwin'. Yes, he played an important role in establishing the theory of evolution but the ideas should be judged independently of an individual person. Furthermore, it suggests our ideas today about evolution are the same as in his days but we know so much more now.

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Jane Bovary Level 1 Commenter 17 months ago

Evofans?

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

good point; we don't worship darwin & we're not fanatics like 'fan' implies. go back to darwinclub? or evolutionclub? The latter is probably better, as can include modern evolution, not just Darwin. Agree that not good idea to have Darwin or fans in keyword.

freethinkclub and uncagedminds are not taken as tags

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Jane Bovary Level 1 Commenter 17 months ago

Evoclub? I think we need ad Ad man in here...

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

So what about evoclub or evolutionclub for education about darwin & evolution ie more science-based hubs.

freethinkclub or uncagedminds for the above and related themes eg agnostic etc. Or just have freethinkclub or similar rather than 2 clubs?

I won't bother re-tagging my hubs until we have 3 or more people agree

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simeonvisser 17 months ago

I would say either evolutionclub, freethinkclub, or freethinkerclub. I would only participate if I like the tag :)

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Jane Bovary Level 1 Commenter 17 months ago

Freethinker club is fine...although I'm not sure if I like 'club'..lol

I think we're probably driving Austin crazy with this. No, club is fine too. freethinkerclub.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

simeon - do you think we should have 2 clubs - one for just evolution/Darwin but not related agnostic/atheist etc. Or just one club that covers all, like freethinkclub?

I expect Austin won't fix up the hub until all decided, and then can be defined what types of hubs are eligible

ie if decide on only one club, then I think it should have a name like freethinkclub or freethinkerclub, and any evolution hubs must fit the freethinker criteria

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Jane Bovary Level 1 Commenter 17 months ago

i vote for just one club...and anyone can join

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

Jane, I'm cool with 1 club, but only freethinking and evolution/Darwin hubs allowed, not 'anyone can join' ie I won't advertise the RSS feed if anti-evolutionists allowed to promote their hubs. So needs to be criteria ie pro-evolution etc

Anti-evolutionists or religionists can form their own club if they want (and hopefully they won't vandalise this one, assuming it takes off)

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simeonvisser 17 months ago

One tag is probably better. This tag can cover topics like evolution and world views.

But it will be hard to prevent anti-evolution hubs appearing in the RSS feed. Anyone can use the tag and we cannot prevent people with different views to add the tag to their hub. I have no problem with this as it might stimulate discussion. After all, anyone who uses the tag will have hubs with both viewpoints appearing on their hubs and this works both ways.

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Yep, you're definitely driving me Crazy(er)! I agree we should decide on a tag that religionists would NEVER add to their tags since we don't want to promote their hubs.

I'll add a poll and everyone needs to vote on what tag to use.

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simeonvisser 17 months ago

"that religionists would NEVER add to their tags" - They will add any tag to get on your computer screen, look at the forums on HubPages alone to see evidence of that.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

do you agree that if one tag should be used, it can't be darwin or evolution, but more broad ie freethinkclub and freethinkerclub ? Trying to bring like-minded people together to cross-promote hubs - if I can get the RSS capsule thing to work.

If they're smart enough, they'd work it out easily enough. If they were even smarter, they'd have their own club. I won't raid theirs if they don't raid ours.

Of course, if the opposing side bombard it, they will kill it in 5 mins (for themselves also)

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

I hope they will be smart enough to organize their own group of friends. We shall see.

Poll is up! Go vote!

Simeonvisser, I'll add you to our list tomorrow. It's midnight thirty and I have to go to bed.

Good night all!

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Jane Bovary Level 1 Commenter 17 months ago

Hubstars? Yuk! Sorry but that is just awful..lol.

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 17 months ago

I have a brand new Darwin hub out. Its Darwin from an historic perspective. I hope you like it.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

Rod, will check it out. I have a brand new hub about the politics of anti-evolutionists (might be one of the only times I write about politics - ha ha)

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Pcunix Level 7 Commenter 17 months ago

Great idea, although I am with those who think anything with Darwin is too restrictive.

I'll vote for "freethinkers" for the moment and will have to look through my hubs later this week to see where it might be appropriate.

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

OK, I threw hubstars in to make it an even dozen, LOL! Can't help it, I have stars in my eyes.

Rod and BB, now I have to find time to go read the new hubs!

Hi Pcunix! We welcome the pcunii to the mix!

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GusTheRedneck Level 6 Commenter 17 months ago

Hi Lela (Austinstar) - Well, you probably know already that I am not all that much of a "joiner," but I do have a question: What hit the DarwinFan?

Gus :-)))

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the fix 17 months ago

Count me in! Love this idea! You rock!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

Is AARUS atheists/agnostics are us? I agree it should be broader than darwin/evolution to embrace the whole philosophy of free-thinking

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Jane Bovary Level 1 Commenter 17 months ago

"I have stars in my eyes"

hahaha...I bet you voted for it right?..;)

This a bit like trying to find a name for a baby. I'm going with AARUS just because, while freethinkers is perfectly fine...it's a tad boring/unoriginal.

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Joyus Crynoid Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

I voted for AARUS because it had the most votes.

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Ok all, I think these 3 tags will work the best. It will be easy for us to remember, but the "other side" will probably not be able to figure out what the tags stand for.

I think we should start tagging!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

can always add numbers etc to vary at intervals it if get nuisance hangers-on eg make AA3RUS and other variations if need to. OK, tag away - I managed to add some other rrs feeds - just takes a few hours for tags to be recognised

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

Gosh, I'd better check through all the profiles above and see if I've missed following anyone

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

There's more to come. I just checked my list and I've left out a few. I'll try to invite them as soon as possible.

Yes, it does take a few hours to percolate!

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Joyus Crynoid Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

I tagged four of my hubs with AARUS. Two of them aren't related to Darwin, but they do deal with evolution and origins, so I figured they fit the category...

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

close enough for us! We also need to start adding the RSS feeds to our hubs.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

I just tagged all my agnostic and evolution ones with AARUS too

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Cool, I'm going to start working on my hubs this weekend. I see that yours are showing up in the feed!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

I've put two club feeds in my hubs. Maybe this one could have two feeds of the one club - one for latest and one for hot or best?

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

You could even use all three "latest" "hot" "best" Just substitute whichever word you want to use.

Latest = feeds hubs as they are written with the most recent on top.

Hot = feeds hubs that are getting the most traffic

Best = feeds hubs with the highest hub score.

Take your pick!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

Yes, I've got the club feeds on 2 hubs. Was talking about this hub, when it has just 1 clubname, can put up a couple of different feeds

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akirchner Level 4 Commenter 17 months ago

I want to join, too, Lela - I just have to wake up - literally! I've been on vacation for a week and I think my brain evaporated working on the upcoming contest! Happy New Year!!

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

I know! The new contest is going to be hard. I'm so not into writing about money! I will add you immediately. Can't forget my Audrey!

Did you have a good vacation?

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FCEtier 17 months ago

Count me in. Thanks for the RSS feed info, I'll check it out later. I'm a professional procrastinator! LOL

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Done, stop procrastinating! Add those tags and RSS feeds today!

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James A Watkins Level 8 Commenter 17 months ago

How about SinnersRUs? :D

I'm just kidding! God, lighten up.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

James called me Beelzebub on my evolution of christianity hub. James' mind is so set in concrete he wouldn't know truth if it slapped him in the face!

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tonymac04 17 months ago

Great idea and I would like to be included.

To be fair, although James doesn't make it clear, I think the "beelzebub" he referred to in that cmment is actually a fellow Hubber who uses that name, though I'm not too sure. See http://hubpages.com/profile/Beelzebub. I do recall him making comments on some forum topics though he (I'm assuming it's a "he") has not published any Hubs.

Thanks again for a wonderful idea. Have already added a tag to my Hub on Darwin

Love and peace

Tony

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Hi tonymac! I actually do have you on my written list to add to the club. I will do so now. I try not to procrastinate, but I'm only human :-)

Hi James! SinnersRUs sounds like a great tag word for all of the religionists hubs! Only one man would be left out.

BaileyBear, surely you and I have been called worse things! At any rate, it may have been a misunderstanding. James has issues, but don't we all?

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 17 months ago

Baileybear, tell James that you are no second stringer like beelzebub playing around with flies and biting insects. You are Satan or he can forget the whole damn thing.

I have James now attacking the Jews over Communism because Marx was born into a Jewish household. Very strange business.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

tony et all, that hubber doesn't exist. There is a hubber called beelzedad that didn't comment on my hub (that's what I thought at first). He said, Beelzebub said: and then quoted me & called me a liar. I find it tragic that a person that professes to be a christian stoops so low.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

Looks like James' paranoia about demons is getting the better of him. He wrote that Joyus had the blackest of hearts and was inspired by demons & wrote on Mag's to ignore the 'demon-possessed'

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 17 months ago

Beelzebub is one of Satan's main players so I suppose that isn't too bad, Baileybear. I'd hold out for the big chair down under if I were you. And maintain a sense of humor. I certainly don't want to take all this devil and demon stuff too seriously. Its just plain silly on James' part.

I find it appalling that James seems to want Communism to be some kind of Jewish plot against the world.

I know enough about American history to know that the North American Indian didn't get a fair shake in the 19th Century and I doubt I will ever be convinced otherwise.

SinnersRus sounds fine to me, Austinstar.

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Ouch! My inner demon just bit me. I wrote a hub about scary movies, especially a movie called The Exorcist. I have some kind of weird relationship with that movie. Good thing I don't believe in demons either!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

Rod, I no longer take the devil stuff seriously. Years ago, when I was still a believer, being told I was possessed by the devil by someone I cared about really did my head in. Could push a person in a vulnerable state to suicide, I think.

Saddens me that some people make such ignorant comments. I really hope most Americans aren't like this.

I've told James he's paranoid - that'll hit even more nerves :)

Maybe we should call ourselves SWRUS - Satan Whisperers - that's what the religionists call us - and they won't dare steal our tags

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

BB, Definitely, MOST Americans are NOT like James. Most Americans just go about their lives quietly and live like sheep. James thinks he is one of the shepherds, but it's not true. He's a sheep too.

There are a few good free thinkers here as well.

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simeonvisser 17 months ago

"Demons are real, the supernatural is real and anyone who does not believe in these basic truths are fools."

I, magnoliazz, hereby declare anyone who disagrees with me a fool...

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 17 months ago

Magnoliazz - James is intelligent and a popular writer, but he doesn't know even the basics about science, which he attacks openly. It is frustrating trying to debate with him, because he is defending a warped version anyway.

He also says humans are possessed by demons if they don't agree with him. He is very black and white, and he has racist undertones in his hubs. He calls people names if they do not agree with him - rather childish, I think.

Any last shreds of respect I had for James are well and truly flushed down the toilet.

If a significant number of people in America agree with James' narrow-minded, bigoted thinking, I think America is in a very sad state.

I've long since given up on believing in demons - my mental health is much better for it.

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 17 months ago

"In God We Trust" first appeared on US money in 1864 during the American Civil War. It was a very religious age. The words smack of freemasonry which is okay. There is also the half completed temple and the sacred eye which definitely belongs to freemasonry.

I have noticed a lot of natural disasters in the world of late caused by global warming but not much on the paranormal scene.

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Austinstar Hub Author 17 months ago

Note - I deleted Magnoliazz comment because:

A. It had nothing whatsoever to do with this hub

B. It was a deliberate attempt to promote another hubber that I no longer follow

C. She stated that "Demons are real" - My reply would be "It takes one to know one"

D. She stated that "There is an explosion of paranormal activity going on" - No citations to prove that

E. I personally feel she is a brainwashed ninny.

F. It's my hub and I can delete whomever I want to. She is not welcome here.

@Rod - "In God We Trust" did indeed appear at the request of some religious nut who couldn't bear to separate church and state (https://ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency

Having this phrase on our money hasn't protected us from the terrible economy or any other "supernatural" disaters of the financial kind. I vote to have that phrase removed from our money! I say we throw all the money up in the air and whatever God wants he can keep!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

what's that saying? If one person hears voices from god, we call them insane. If masses hear voices from god, we call it religion

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Joyus Crynoid Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

Hah!--Baileybear, that pretty much sums it up. Except I would say that with religion you also get a lot of folks who don't hear voices following (like sheep) a charismatic leader who is completely out of his or her mind!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

True, Joyous. The charismatic leader hears voices & is psychotic & everyone else is a sheepie

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago

Austinstar, its okay. I am not claiming that the words "In God We Trust" have any magical powers. They didn't stop the Wall Street crash of 1929 and they haven't done a thing to address America's recent financial woes either. I don't know of any supernatural disasters when it comes to money. Disasters can all be traced back to greed and stupidity in equal amounts which is all very human. The safeguards put into place in the 1930s on the stock market to prevent a crash ever occurring again were removed in the 1980s when it was acclaimed that greed was good.

I find the origin of the Mormons pretty daft. I believe that was a case of a fellow hearing voices.

I find freemasonry interesting though definitely not for me.

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Austinstar Hub Author 16 months ago

My dad was a Freemason and my mom was in the Eastern Star group. They would never talk much about it, though my father did explain once that it was not a Christian group, they believe in ALL religions having an equal chance of being viable. Since my mom ended up going crazy and believing in space ship "redeemers", I assume that the Masons really weren't based on Christianity and I'm relatively certain they are anti-Catholic.

Other than that, I think they are just some sort of club with a secret handshake.

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Merlin Fraser 16 months ago

You cynical old thing you... The Freemasons some sort of club with a secret handshake. However you are right they are not a Christian organisation, nor are they affiliated to any other religious order.

Had to get that bit in... I’m starving to death out here....!

Their sacred oath has to be sworn to in front of witnesses much the same way, “So Help Me God” is added after you swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth in a court of law, just before you proceed to lie your head off.....

I suppose the Masons could be considered as the one and only truly multi cultural multi religious organisation where all are treated fairly as long as you believe in a God and are will to so swear then you will be considered for membership.

Many members of my family, including my father were, and are, Masons and I too was offered membership, I had that one question about the swearing of an oath before God, since I hold Pagan beliefs and don’t believe in a God, any of them, I was never asked again !

However, and here’s the SALES Pitch, if you or your followers want to know about what I think about the Mason’s and the symbols on the one dollar note you need to read my third book Inner Space The All Seeing Eye.... available from Amazon....

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Austinstar Hub Author 16 months ago

That sounds like a good book. I'll go look it up and most likely purchase it since I know the author :-)

Have you considered writing one about the KKK?

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Merlin Fraser 16 months ago

Seriously No, I don't know that much about them to be honest.

My three books are Murder Mystery stories with a Supernatural come Paranormal twist. It's a subject that fascinates me as well as all those wonderful conspiracy theories that are flying around so I thought I would amalgamate the two.

Dan Brown eat your Heart Out !

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago

Freemasons believe there is only one god but with many names. If you believe in only one god you can become a Freemason. It is such that a Catholic could become a Freemason but probably wouldn't. The Vatican authorities don't approve of the Freemasons hence there is probably anti-Catholic feeling among some Freemasons. This is my understanding.

What the Freemasons are based on has some controversy behind it. The Freemasons themselves would like to believe they are in direct line of those masons who built the pyramids and the temple of Solomon. The incomplete temple is their symbol along with the compass as indicators that there is still work to be done on earth by them though now it is more spiritual than physical.

The KKK were once part of Freemasonry but they were expelled from any association with Freemasonry soon after they were formed. They were way too racist and violent for the Freemasons.

I am only interested in studying Freemasonry from affair. The whole thing is just too weird.

I know they were involved in the development of New York as a great financial center and have a strong suspicion they were also involved in building up Philadelphia as well.

Money and religion seem to go hand in hand with the Freemasons. Hence I suppose "In God We Trust" on the money and the incomplete temple and the sacred eye as well. They are a club with secret handshakes but they have been a very powerful club.

Merlin has it right when he talks about Freemasonry as the multi-cultural, multi-religious organization. The All Seeing eye or the Sacred Eye as I would put it is definitely part of the USA in that it is one of the very first things you see when you visit the USA. You handle American cash and it leaps out at you. So Dan Brown has some competition.

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago

The word evil tends to get tossed around a lot by creationists and those who support the notion that Darwin was not correct. A problem to be solved seems more the stand of those who see real science in a more positive light. A problem to be solved can often be solved in time by humans. Something that is evil must be turned away from and can only ultimately be solved by God alone. This is the current mind set of apparently a lot of people.

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Joyus Crynoid Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

"Hear no evil, speak no evil, and see no evil"

= deaf, dumb, and blind.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

"Religion isn't the opiate of the masses, it's the placebo of the masses." --Dr. Gregory House

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Austinstar Hub Author 16 months ago

First of all it is judgmental to determine that something is "evil".

Is Satan evil? A lot of people think so. But first, does Satan really exist? No one can prove that. They just think they can prove it. There is no empirical proof that Satan exists.

Is murder evil? Many people would certainly agree that murder is evil. Yet the same people don't seem to agree that war is evil. They think war is justified in certain cases. Many other people see war as being nothing but murder and it is an evil and vile thing to rape and pillage another country or culture.

Basically, what one person sees as being "evil" another person can see as being not "evil". There really is no such thing as an object being "evil". Only thoughts and concepts can be "evil".

So it would be best to train our thoughts and concepts to see the "good" in things rather than the "evil" in things. That would make the world a "better" place to live in, don't you think?

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago

Hear no evil (let us find a logical explanation for what has happened).

Speak no evil (let's not talk about the supernatural when there are other possible answers and a solution to arrive at).

See no evil (lets look at the facts rather than look for magical answers).

Let's leave magical thinking alone, Joyus.

Baileybear, House may have a point. Religion can work like a placebo, a sugar pill. It can also work like a touch of opium. Your own personal call on that one.

You bet, Austinstar, that it is judgmental to determine that something is evil.

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Joyus Crynoid Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

I think you misunderstood me Rod--I certainly wasn't advocating magical thinking. The admonition to "hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil" implies that something is judged to be evil. And I only meant to suggest that that prejudice renders one deaf, dumb and blind. Sorry if my attempt at humor was a bit opaque;-)

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Austinstar Hub Author 16 months ago

I got you JC! Yep, the 3 monkey are deaf, dumb and blind!

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago

Sorry I got you wrong there Joyus.

Fair enough, Austinstar. My bad as they say.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

there's another 'evolution is responsible for people being dehumanized' hub by new hubber GodTalk

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Austinstar Hub Author 16 months ago

What's the link? BB

I'm writing a new hub based on the "O Negative blood lines" that Magnoliazz asked me about. It's going to be technical, but should prove evolution of blood group genetic markers assuming Adam and Eve were clones from the same genetic code (Adam then Eve being made from his rib).

I'll have to get some feedback to see if anyone is able to follow my reasoning!

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

what for GodTalk? Just type his name in hubbers. He has 1 short hub with the usual religious crap.

Or do you mean about A2 milk?

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

I've decided to convert to become a Pastafarian, a believer in the deity of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, made of spaghetti & meatballs that created the universe while drunk (to explain for the numerous examples of intelligent design). If I waiver in my faith, call me spagnostic. I believe in the gluten-free version of FSM as I am celiac and gluten to me is evil. Therefore, I have formed another FSM denomination.

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Austinstar Hub Author 16 months ago

I do not know what A2 milk is. Are you talking about lactose free milk?

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

A1 & A2 are the forms of casein, so not lactose free. Lactose-free milk is for those that don't have the enzyme to break down lactose (but still has A1)

http://www.a2milk.com.au/about-a2-milk.php

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Austinstar Hub Author 16 months ago

Well, I feel sad for those that can't drink milk. I love the stuff. We drink two gallons a week between me and Bob. I do buy the low fat, organic kind which at $5 a gallon costs me $40+ a month just for milk. So do you use Soy milk? I heard soy can cause thyroid problems.

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

No, I don't drink soy, because my thyroid was being attacked by auto-immune antibodies & had huge cysts (and soy inhibits thyroid hormone). It has rectified itself since going gluten-free

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Austinstar Hub Author 16 months ago

That demon illness you had sure sounds god-awful! Glad you are better now! (That was a pun of sorts) :-)

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Baileybear Level 3 Commenter 16 months ago

oh, yes. I was confused for years thinking maybe I was cursed or possessed after all (as my symptoms included severe 'brain fog' & depression) & irrational feelings/moods/thoughts.

Of course, when I figured out it was food, and could make my symptoms come and go with what I ate, I realised it was just crappy genetics/biochemistry. No supernatural entities involved. No supernatural entity helped me either.

So losing my faith was 1. the hypocrisy & ignorance of the believers telling me I was possessed when I was in a vulnerable state 2. finding out it all had physical explanations 3. investigating further and finding that there is still absolutely no substance in christianity/religion (plus I can't force myself to believe, as am a scientific thinker type anyway).

So my writing on hubpages has been mainly about figuring out all these links

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago

Check out my hub Darwin in the 20th Century if you like.

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Austinstar Hub Author 16 months ago

I will! Thanks for letting me know although I'm sure I would have gotten it in my digest. Cool.

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago

Not much on Darwin because a lot has been said already.

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago

Mind you a lot of truthful information about Darwin has already been put out there in hubs as well as not-so-truthful information.

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Austinstar Hub Author 16 months ago

It would be nice to be able to let him know how much his observations helped the modern world. In spite of the religionists stance against the theory of evolution, they have certainly benefited from it.

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago

David Attenborough, Gerald Durrell (My family and other Animals) and Desmond Morris (The Naked Ape) owe much to people like Darwin and we owe much to the Attenboroughs, Durrells and Morris' of this world.

It is an ongoing story started by Darwin and the zoologists of his day and maybe its best to see it that way. Maybe Darwin and his contemporaries in the 19th Century have supplied up with the impetus to save our world. It starts with the notion that we are part of the animal kingdom and not separate from it. My thoughts at any rate.

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Austinstar Hub Author 16 months ago

We are not only part of the animal kingdom, we are part of the very earth itself and therefore part of the universe itself. Everything is linked together.

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Rod Marsden Level 4 Commenter 16 months ago

This linking thing was what Darwin was all about. Attenborough continues to spread the word.

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cascoly Level 1 Commenter 14 months ago

Hi

Count me in i've been posting about evolution & religion since the BBS & CompuServe days, and HP has given a new outlet

please add me to your list

what is the status of the RRS feed? one or many?

steve

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Austinstar Hub Author 14 months ago

It is one RSS link that feeds many hubs.

TheWORD 11 months ago

how bout me i kinda leaning on the theory of evolution......but not on darwin,,,,so I aint a darwinian.

Why am I leaning on EVOLUTION theory...hmmmm.....well years before the scientific world decided to review its classification methods they characterized animals into easy to distinguish criteria....the mammals-have fur, the birds-has beaks/bill,feathers, and lays eggs, the amphibians-able to live on both water and land, and the reptiles-cold blooded scaly animals and lays eggs(others are on debate or possibly undecided).....and the scientific world was in celebration of their success....

not until god seeing man growing boastful of their petty bio-diversity distinguishing methods, decides to play a prank....

And he shared to the world he's first beggoten pet---the PLATYPUS.

Brainiac's convention..

#1: ohh a new specie of animal hmmm it has a fur its got to be a MAMMAL....

#2:Fool cant you see its bill, its definitely a BIRD....

#3:lolWUT!?! its laying eggs is amphibious???

all:decided to reform the animal classification system...

the END....

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